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Oson afora tis 7900, den pisteyw kan oti tithetai thema. H mnhmh mou, an kai den einai idiaitera axiopisth, teinei na symfwnisei me ton Inkjjl. Apo thn allh, tha proteina na "anevei" ligaki h 7600GT (pou, parepiptontos, exei 128bit memory bus (2x64)) kai sto pure speed , mexri na xeperasei toulaxiston thn 6800GS

Mhn anyshxeis. Ekleisa to list tag gia na fainontai kapws ok auta pou fainontai ki apo kei kai pera, opote boreseis ftiaxe to

Na merika http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=1621 http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/sapphire/gtos/ http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=1636 http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=3575 Fysika tha htan megalo krima na xexasoume to pio axiopisto site tou planhth :D http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27655

Isws na htan tou thoma, auto de shmainei oti ola htan me eng samples. Ektws autou, an yphrxe diafora sta telika chips (synithws h monh diafora, an yparxei, einai ta clocks) pisteyw tha to eixame mathei.

An einai na epikentrwthoume toso poly sto sygekrimeno...nomizw to pcper mazi me to [H] to kanane moda tautoxrona, an kai sto pcper exw kairo na to xanadw... Narayan, AFAIK, sxedon ola ta reviews ginontai se kommatia reserved gia press...alla den xerw kata poso tha ta xarakthriza eng samples :S

Err, eixa thn entypwsh oti oi g70 apla eixane multiple clock domains. De thymamai pouthena na eida stoixeia oti h karta allazei to roloi kapoiou domain en wra 3d leitourgias (mono apo 2d -> 3d). Did I miss something ?

Err, me berdepsate ki emena twra :? Auth th stigmh, to TSAA (me ssaa) douleyei sxetika kala sthn pleiopshfia twn games kai, an kai logika einai ikano na anevasei thn 7800gt sth thesh akrivws katw apo thn 7800gtx sth lista, kati tetoio de symvainei logo twn anaforwn gia shimmering sto g70 akoma kai se hq mode ? Opws kai na exei, provlepw ta pragmata na ginontai pio periploka gia quality/performance-based sygriseis sto mellon :|

Proswpika, krinontas apo oles tis veltistopoihseis pou ginontai gyrw apo to trilinear twra teleytaia aporw an tha doume trilinear tmus apo tous "2 megalous" sto syntomo mellon. Apo thn allh vevaia, elpizw na kanw lathos

Hmm, auto isws sou fanei xrhsimo

Hmmm, oti reviews koitaxa milagane gia 560Mhz. Mhpws oi BBA tha exoun diaforetiko xronismo apo tis alles (pragma pou mou thymizei epoxes 8500) h milame gia aplh periptwsh typo? Tha prospathisw na mathw

Isws me apata h mnhmh mou, alla eixa thn entypwsh oti h x800 xt pe (ypothetw oti gia authn milas krinontas apo ta fillrate values) eixe mnhmes xronismenes sta 560Mhz dinontas mas peak bandwidth ths taxhs twn ~35.8GB/sec an kai par'ola auta to nv40 synexizei na exei perissotero bandwidth se sxesh me to fillrate tou. Symfwnw mazi sou oson afora ta ypoloipa.

To diavasa to arthro tis extremetech...to thema einai oti ektws apo to o x reviewer na paizei px to game monos tou kai na anaferei ta fps monos tou, o monos tropos na xefygoume apo to "cheating" einai na exoume ena bench pou na xrhsimopoiei teliws random senaria enw taytoxrona sygrinei kai to image ths kathe kartas me ton reference rasterizer....alla einai kapws dyskolo na ginei auto...

Ki egw fanATIc eimai alla na exoume kai kapoia antikeimenikothta...h 5900 ultra exei KAI perissotero bwidth KAI perissotero fillrate kai perissoterh INT power apo oti h 9800. H 9800 apo thn allh exei perissoterh FP power kai arketa kalytero IQ (eidika se FSAA, to 4x ths ati einai amesa sygrisimo me to 8x ths nvidia enw to 6x ths einai koryfh). Opote, se speed h 5900ultra yperexei aneta sto 90% twn games...ki ama skefteis oti h nvidia leei se olous tous devs (vlepe carmack, tous typous pou ftiaxnoun to stalker ktl) na xrhsimopoioune fp16+int12 (pou einai OUT OF SPEC gia dx9) ousiastika borei na xeperasei thn 9800 kai se dx9 level shaders, an kai se xamhlotero iq (gia na pw thn alithia den tous kathgoro, tetoia games se fp32 tha htan unplayable se nv30/35, alla etsi opws exoun katanthsei ta pragmata o kathenas aneta borei na ftiaxei oti bench thelei kai na eynoei thn x h thn y karta). Opws kai na xei, o antagwnismos einai kalos <img src="http://www.insomnia.gr/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Eidame to nv35 (pou kata ti gnwmh mou einai oti tha eprepe na einai to nv30), exei r360, loci kai nv40 akoma h xronia <img src="http://www.insomnia.gr/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Anyway, de thymamai ama ta eipa prin alla Parhelia = enamisi asteraki <img src="http://www.insomnia.gr/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Radeon 7500 = dx7 Radeon katw apo 7500 = dx6 H Kyro 2 ston athlona mou ownare gts se antistoixo mhxanhma...mono se 3dm01 eixe kapoia probs logo bug tou 3dm. A, na mhn xexasw oti einai dx6 karta (ths leipei to t&l). Ama thes tipota allo info, don't be afraid to ask <img src="http://www.insomnia.gr/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Xwris ta diafora hacks pou proanafera h 5900ultra sto 3dm2k03 prepei na einai pio argh apo thn 9800pro. Apo thn allh, an kai xanei se shader power (kai se IQ, an kai einia asxeto me to sygekrimeno topic), nikaei se ola ta ypoloipa opote pisteyw antikeimenika eprepe na einai pio panw an kai sta sygekrimena tests pou anaferei o narayan xanei to ena kai nikaei to allo.....gia na mhn ta polylogw, an kai otidhpote na empaine sto sygekrimeno table tha htan anakrives (logo tou oti einai poly aplo), symfwnw me ton prolalhswnta <img src="http://www.insomnia.gr/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

As I said before, Radeon9100/9200 einai dx8, oxi dx9. Epishs oi gef4mx einai dx7 ki oxi dx8. VS2.0=DX9 alla PS1.3=DX8. H Kyro2, se xamhlo cpu htan ligo pio argh apo gef2 gts kai se grhgoro ligo pio grhgorh (den eixe hardware t&l opote vasizotane sto cpu gia auta). Anyway, mias kai allaxes to topic, giati den ftiaxneis ena table pou na sygrineis tis kartes as poume se int ps, fp ps, vs, aa, af, aa+af, flexibility, performance sta pio "flexible" settings, fillrate kai bwidth ? Na katalavainei men o average joe alla na vlepei kai merika stoixeia o hw freak <img src="http://www.insomnia.gr/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Good job so far <img src="http://www.insomnia.gr/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.insomnia.gr/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />