mazda Δημοσ. 27 Φεβρουαρίου 2002 Δημοσ. 27 Φεβρουαρίου 2002 1. 256 ddram<p>-------------------------------------------------- 2. mobo asus p4b-266 Supports Intel Pentium 4 socket 478 processors Intel i845D and ICH2 chipset 3 DIMMS slots for up to 2GB of PC2100/PC1600 DDR SDRAM support AGP 4X slot ATA-100/66/33 support 2 USB 1.1 ports 6 PCI slots / 1 CNR slot 4 USB 2.0 ports (optional) C-Media CMI8738 6-channel audio (optional) Intel 10/100 Mbps Ethernet LAN controller(optional) S/PDIF-in/out interface (optional) ------------------------------------------------- 3. cpu p4 1600 mhz northwood, 0,3 micro -------------------------------------------------- 4. winxp pro --------------------------------------------------<p> kolane metria,kala h poli kala metaksi tous ?<p>[ 27-02-2002: Το μήνυμα επεξεργάστηκε από: mazda ]</p>
Dimmu_Borgir Δημοσ. 1 Μαρτίου 2002 Δημοσ. 1 Μαρτίου 2002 To P4 an den aneferes ola 8a htan fina!! ------------------------- Dimmu Borgir <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />
MY80- Δημοσ. 2 Μαρτίου 2002 Δημοσ. 2 Μαρτίου 2002 Den exw akousei kana gnwsto provlhma me touta.....P4 ennoeis tous kainourios northwood 0.13 mikra e? H vghke cpu me 0.3 mikra kai den to phra xabari??? Apla pare kalh ram giati dipsaei gia OCing, enas typas sto icrontic eixe ftasei P4 1.6Ghz (northwood) sta 2.5Ghz XWRIS wc/peltiers.
spock Δημοσ. 2 Μαρτίου 2002 Δημοσ. 2 Μαρτίου 2002 Εεεε, φίλε Μύθε, μάλλον έχεις μείνει πίσω, γιατί στα 0,3 μικρά ήταν οι πρώτοι Pentiums και ο Κ6. ʼν ο P4 ήταν κατασκευασμένος στα 0.3 μικρόμετρα, θα ήταν σαν πλακάκι για το μπάνιο (όχι οτι τώρα είναι καλύτερος). <small>[ 02-03-2002, 02:42: Το μήνυμα επεξεργάστηκε από: spock ]</small>
ex_tep Δημοσ. 2 Μαρτίου 2002 Δημοσ. 2 Μαρτίου 2002 xaaxaxaxaxax plakaki gia to mpanio kalo!!LOL.Simfono an evgazes ton P4 tha mastan mia xara:)
kelestor Δημοσ. 3 Μαρτίου 2002 Δημοσ. 3 Μαρτίου 2002 Kai o P4 emena mia xara mou akougetai.... Mazda go for it. Toso kairo kanena P4 den exw akousei na kaei pote. Enw exw dei AMD na psinonati san ta kolourakia ths giagias mou <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> . An thes axiopistia pare P4. An thes pusharismata kai poly kales epidoseis paradexomai tous AMD. Sou euxomai omws na mhn eisai anamesa se ekeino to 5% twn pelatwn ths AMD pou exoun allaksei 2-3 fores ton epexergasth giati h AMD nomizei oti mporei na ftiaksei tsipakia-pyrex. Paradexomai oti andexoun ta atima mexri kai 90c alla pollwn o kwlos exei kaei kai twra trexoun... Alh8eia maxda tsekare kai thn asus p4b266-e me raid ata133. Axizei ta 5.000 parapanw... Ayta kai ta leme paides <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
Dimmu_Borgir Δημοσ. 4 Μαρτίου 2002 Δημοσ. 4 Μαρτίου 2002 </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by kelestor: <strong>Kai o P4 emena mia xara mou akougetai.... Mazda go for it. Toso kairo kanena P4 den exw akousei na kaei pote. Enw exw dei AMD na psinonati san ta kolourakia ths giagias mou <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> . An thes axiopistia pare P4. An thes pusharismata kai poly kales epidoseis paradexomai tous AMD. Sou euxomai omws na mhn eisai anamesa se ekeino to 5% twn pelatwn ths AMD pou exoun allaksei 2-3 fores ton epexergasth giati h AMD nomizei oti mporei na ftiaksei tsipakia-pyrex. Paradexomai oti andexoun ta atima mexri kai 90c alla pollwn o kwlos exei kaei kai twra trexoun... Alh8eia maxda tsekare kai thn asus p4b266-e me raid ata133. Axizei ta 5.000 parapanw... Ayta kai ta leme paides <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">1on: Opoios exei kapsei AMD epeksergasth gia emena einai asxetos h tou exei balei psuxtra apo pentium 100!!!!Kai mhn nomizei kanenas oti o P4 sta 1,6 den 8a zestenetai giati den milame gia pentium 100 alla gia 16x100!! 2on: P4 != aksiopistia!! Den mporw na katalabw pws o epeksergasths sou parexei aksiopistia! Egw exw mia Asus A7V266-E, Athlon XP1900+ kai h mhtrikh mou einai gemath apo kartes, kai ta 5 PCI einai kathlhmena kai den exw oute ena problhma!! Anti8etws exw ena filo me P4 o opoios den exei idea ti shmainei h leksh drivers kai ka8e mera mou paraponietai oti mera me thn mera trwei olo kai pio polles mple o8ones! 3on: Oi AMD den einai pyrex!!!Den antexoun mexri tous 90 ba8mous C.Isws gia auto to logo to 5% twn pelatwn ths AMD exoun allaksei 2-3 fores ton epexergasth giati lene aaa ok o epksergasths antexei mexri tous 90 gia na tou aukshsoume kiallo to FSB, stous 70 eimaste mono!! Opws kai oi P4 etsi kai oi Athlon antexoun mexri tous peripou 70.Mprosta mou exw pdf ths AMD. 4on: Isws pollwn o kwlos na exei kaei alla profanws exoun mia pinakida panw apo to kefali tous pou grafei "Katafera na kapsw ton epeksergasth mou, den einai fobero??!!" Kai oso gia to ATA133 uparxoun polles mhtrikes me Raid sto ATA133 kai h Asus A7V333 me to KT333 8a elega oti einai kaluterh lush apo thn p4b266-e.Skepsou: 333 h 266?Mmmmm den kserw!! Kai genika an kapoios den einai sigouros gia kati, as mhn grafei oti exei akousei apo diaforous, den kanei kako na psaxnei kai ligo to 8ema! ----------------------- Dimmu Borgir <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />
mazda Δημοσ. 4 Μαρτίου 2002 Μέλος Δημοσ. 4 Μαρτίου 2002 telika pira to p4 1600 kai tora doulevei sta 2133 mhz me ligo.....sproksimo kalos mou fenetai
kelestor Δημοσ. 4 Μαρτίου 2002 Δημοσ. 4 Μαρτίου 2002 1)Arketoi AMD pou exoun kaei h parousiazoun problhmata 8ermokrasias den exoun KAN pusharistei alla etsi opws einai anebazoun "pyreto". Kai otan lew pyreto ennow 55-60c kai parapanw XWRIS pusharisma. Tonizw oti ta pososto ton AMD pou yper8ermenontai kai kaigontai paradexomai oti einai mikro... estw kai 2% h akoma kai 0.5%kai ligotero. Omws to fainomeno einai paradekto. Twra an ka8e enas pou apofasizei na kanei pusharisma bazei thn psyktra la8os h kaiei thn cpu 8elontas na thn kanei pyraulo auto einai dikh toy eu8inh. 2) Nai axiopistia. Den milaw gia thn sta8erothta tou systhmatos kai poso fortwmeno einai kai poses mple othones kanei. Kapoia pragmata ta thewrw dedomena opws to na noiazesai gia thn "software kai hardware" synthrhsh toy systhmatos. Pragma to opoio o filos sou mallon den to gnwrizei. Anaferomai se eggyhsh gia CPU Intel, gia CPU Intel pou (prin ton athlon) eixan kataklysei kai kerdisei thn empistosynh ths agoras gia xronia. 3) Oi AMD exoun bgalei fhmh gia pyrex giati shmera oi 2 stous 3 pou pernoun AMD exoun skopo to pusharisma. Blepeis to overclocking egine standart feature gia mobo twra. Kai oso kaloi kai an einai oi AMD 8eloume kai allo. Oloi oi filoi mou exoun pusharei tous P3 tous kai milame gia 50mhz to panw katw na kerdisan kai den eixan kanena problhma. Alla auto den mporei na ypo8ei san pusharisma. Paradexomai oti twra me tous Nothwood tha doume th axizoun telika oi P4 se o/c. Oso gia tis mobo: 1)8a prothmousa mia antiprotash gia P4 2)8a protimousa na mhn dwsw ta lefta mou gia 333 otan to 400 einai poly konta. Kai 266 einai arketa kai kala. Telos na shmeiwsw oti den eimai kanenas fanatikos ths Intel apla dinw perissoterh shmasia se poiothta kai sigouria para se epidoseis. Mprabo sou pou exeis athlon gia 100 xronia kai egw exw intel. Omws kapoio pernoon dyskoles wres blepontas thn CPU na ftanei 65+ kai to PC na kleinei mono tou. Kai file sto 90 twn periptwsewn oi CPU autes den grafoun panw INTEL alla AMD. Na stai kala... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />
Dimmu_Borgir Δημοσ. 4 Μαρτίου 2002 Δημοσ. 4 Μαρτίου 2002 Kala twra milame sobara??Pws einai dunaton na kapsei kaneis enan epeksergasth?Ektos an einai asxetos kai den tou parexei thn katallhlh psuksh.An kai se auth thn periptwsh 8a mpei sth mesh h mhtrikh kai 8a sou sbhsei to pc.Dhladh mou einai adianohto, den mporw na skeftw kapoion toso blaka pou na mhn katalabainei oti kati paei straba kai sto telos na kapsei ton epeksergasth!!!Kai epanalambanw: H uper8ermansh ofeiletai sthn kakh apilogh psuxtras.Egw exw enan Athlon XP 1900+, pou trexei sta 1.6GHz kai me ena Volcano 7 ths Thermatake den mou anebainei panw apo tous 50 ba8mous se full load.POU EINAI H YPER8ERMANSH?? Episeis den exw dei pou8ena magazi pou na einai enhmerwmeno gia tous AMD.Pou8ena Gia poies egguhseis milame twra?An prosexeis ton epeksergasth sou den prokeitai na xalasei pote giati einai apo ta eksarthmata pou den exoun tribes.Kai me sugxwreis twra alla mou les oti h Intel exei kerdisei thn empistosunh ths agoras?To ksereis oti h Intel plhrwnei to 15% (isws kai perissotero) gia mia diafhmhsh mono kai mono gia na emfanistei to logo ths??Em pws na mhn kerdisei thn agora afou opou kai na pas Intel Intel blepeis.Exeis dei pote diafhmhsh ths AMD??Oxi, giauto uparxoun polloi pou oute kan kseroun oti uparxei, pera ths Intel, allos kataskeuasths epeksergastwn. Opoios pairnei Amd gia overclocking, opws kai gia ka8e allo epeksergasth, 8a prepei na einai gnwsths gia to ti kanei.Den pairmw Amd gia na exw megaluterh antoxh, kati pou den isxuei, mhpws kanw kati straba h den kserw poso 8ermokrasia 8a anabasei opote lew ela mwre antexei, den 8a pa8ei tipota.Auto einai endeiksh karagiozh pou apla kanei kati gia to opoio den kserei Xristo!!! Kai opoios blepei thn 8ermokrasia sto 65 kai den mporei na katalabei oti tou exoun pasarei mapa cooleraki, kai den paei na to allaksei, eee tote ti na pw, h Amd ftaiei? ------------------------------------ Dimmu Borgir <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />
madrules Δημοσ. 4 Μαρτίου 2002 Δημοσ. 4 Μαρτίου 2002 Re ti lete pyreto ktl.... Ta pragmata einai apla exoume dyo diforetikes eteries pou ftiaxnoun epexergastes i kathemia me ta diko tis tropo kai me diaforetika xaraktiristika. Sto thema ton thermokrasiwn den mou leei tipota an exo p4 kai exo 35-40 bathmous h an exo athlon kai exo 45-50, apo tin stigmi pou o idios o kataskevastis leei oti paei mexri kai 70+ bathmous os pros ti ayto to thapsimo ktl??? Episis opoios exei kali psiksi tou case (kai ayto den einai mono gia na pesoun oi thermokrasies tou cpu alla einai kalo gia to olo systima, kartes, sklirous, dvd, cd-rw ktl) se syndiasmo me ena aplo-kalo ysixo cooleraki apokleietai na synantisei problima thermokrasias. Episis o kathe kataskevastis den sou leei oti ebgala mia cpu kai prepei na tis kaneis o/c opote tha exei megalyteres thermokrasies kai me extreme o/c mporei kai na kaei. H kathe cpu bgainei se kapoia Mhz kai apo ekei kai pera einai problima tou kathenos an thelei na dokimasei ta oria tis kathos kai ta neyra tou se periptosi pou den paei kala to o/c Opoios parei kapoion Athlon kai balei ena aplo-kalo kai ysixo cooler (px to spire pou exei 5000) kai afisei opos einai tin cpu xoris o/c as erthei na pei an kaei i cpu i anebazei trelles thermokrasies ktl. Fysika einai sigouro oti tha doulevei apsoga. Ayto pou prepei na koitame einai na koitame to symferon mas kai tin tzepi mas kata proto logo. Ego prosopika apo tote pou skasan myti oi protoi Athlon socket paretisa tin Intel kai apo tote blepontas tis apodoseis/times exo parameinei stous AMD Athlon. Tora exo enan Tbird 1400@1530 11.5x133 me 1.75v den exo peiraksei tin tasi kai oi temps pou exo einai full load 43-45 bathmous me volcano 7 (an kai den to exo dei na ksepernaei tis 3600rpm eno ftanei mexri 5000) an ton balo stin kanoniki syxnotita tou 1400 10.5x133 tote exo kai ptosi thermokrasias 2-3 bathmous. Ola ayta me kleisto kouti, oxi anoixto kai tetoies [email protected]. Ara pou einai o pyretos kai ta alla ola doulevoun apsoga kai se xamiles thermokrasies xoris na exo kai kana delta fan kai alla thorybodi mesa.
Dimmu_Borgir Δημοσ. 4 Μαρτίου 2002 Δημοσ. 4 Μαρτίου 2002 Auto lew kai egw file madrules alla osoi den asxolountai nomizw pws den einai de 8esh na katalaboun. ----------------------------- Dimmu Borgir <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />
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