Tei-aei

thanmikron · 9 Μαΐου 2001

Me aformh thn shmerinh poreia thetw to zhthma auto. Polloi apo emas eimaste foithtes kai h eksiswsh tou ptixuou TEI me AEI apotelei ena kairio zhthma pou epivaletai mia lush prwtapola koinwnikh. Pistevw omws oti afora oxi mono tous foithtes alla kai sxedon olous tous ergazomenous afou oi epiptwseis thanai kathoristikes gia olh thn koinwnia mas.H proswpikh mou apopsh einai oti den mporoun na ekiswthoun ta dio ptixeia afou den exei prohgh8ei h anava8mish twn TEI, oppote kati tetoio einai teleiws adiko,anaksiokratiko kai paralogo.P.S.Opoios den ton apasxolei to 8ema as mhn kanei reply ki oxi na sxoliazei thn ousia tou topic. Filika<IMG SRC="http://www.insomnia.gr/cpubb/smilies/cwm30.gif" border=0>

wwwtasos · 9 Μαΐου 2001

Ego file mou exo dei dyo eidi kritikis sto zitima:1) Oi foitites pou fovountai min tous faei th doulia o TEItzis.2) Kritiki genikotera kai pio sinolika sta provlimata tis paideias.Oi protoi (AEI) einai partakides, ofelimistes kai nomizoun oti an feresai san agrimi sti zougkla mono tote tha petyxeis. Den exoun skeftei oti to dikaio einai douleia gia olous kai oxi na skotothoume metaksy mas gia to poios tha doulepsei.Kai auto to koinoniko fainomeno tis eksatomikeusis kai tou antagonismou exei na kanei me tin ekpaideusi, stin opoia mas proetoimazoun gia prothimous paragogous/ergates.Dystyxos vlepo tin ekpaideusi na katanta agatho gia ligous kai auto me anisixei. Simantiko provlima einai ta idiotika... Gnosi akrivi kai gia ligous!!Ara pisteuo oti den arkei h anavafmisi ton TEI h' h eksipsosi tou ptyxiou TEI gia na lithei to provlima, alla allages stin paideia me skopo to na ginei h paideia agatho gia olous.

Icecut · 9 Μαΐου 2001

ama ginei h e3iswsh twn titlwn kai mou fane th douleia mou oi teitzides 8a ga**** poly kosmo....!!!!<IMG SRC="http://www.insomnia.gr/cpubb/smilies/cwm21.gif" border=0> ------------------ members.fortunecity.com/icecut go.to/icecut come.to/icecut

wwwtasos · 9 Μαΐου 2001

Kala re sy to les sovara auto? Poia doulia sou kai doulia mou? Diladi anti na apaitoume doulia gia olous kai oxi anergia tha tsakothoume metaksy mas gia tis "doulies"?Kai go eimai apofoitos IEK alla h pliroforiki einai to meraki mou kai dystyxos den katafera gia diaforous logous na spoudaso!!! Auto to ti simainei? Oti osoi einai sta AEI einai anoteroi mou mipos? Siga! Kai douleuo sto antikeimeno mou kai den exo kai kanenan anagki!! H' mipos nomizeis oti ena xarti simainei aparaitita gnosi?[This message has been edited by wwwtasos (edited 09-05-2001).]

DownUNDERground · 10 Μαΐου 2001

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thanmikron · 10 Μαΐου 2001

Wwwtasos de simfonoume. Polloi einai autoi pou fovountai mipos den iparxoun toses theseis ergasias sto mellon eksaitias autou tou zhthmatos alla oloi simfwnoun oti an prohgh8ei anavathmish twn TEI as ginei kai h eksiswsh ptixeiwn. Alla einai teliws adiko kapoios pou exei ftisei aima gia na parei ena ptixeio sta AEI na pairnei to idio ptixio me enan sta TEI pou den exei prospathisei toso,xwris na thelw na ipotimhsw tous TEItzides. Apla einai anaksiokratia! Filika<IMG SRC="http://www.insomnia.gr/cpubb/smilies/cwm30.gif" border=0>

Anonymous · 10 Μαΐου 2001

Basika eimai iper ths apopshs na aksiologhthoun ola ta TEI kai apo auta na anabathmistoun mono osa prepei.Apo thn allh h douleia pou ginetai mesa sta TEI se merika tmhmata mporei na ftasei i akoma kai na kseperasei se piothta orismena AEI.To exo dei me ta matia mou kai ksero.To problima exei dhmiourghthei apo tis panelladikes eksetaseis opou kapoios tha pei ego egrapsa kalytera kai gia auto ego pao se AEI kai esy se TEI.E loipon auto einai teleios lathos kai tha eprepe oi eksetaseis autes na yparxoun san eisagogikes sto kathe panepisthmio/tei/polytexnio (auto isxyei se arketes ksenes xores kai einai kai to sosto)Den einai dynaton tora emena kapoios malakas pou den exei aggiksei pote ypologisth na mou pernei thn thesh sto AEI pliroforikhs kai ego na katalhgo se TEI.I to allo...na grafei kala istories,ekthesh kai loipa theoritika kai ego na kseskizomai sta mathimatika kai fysikes kai na mou pernei thn thesh pali epeidi itan kalyteros sthn papagalia.Auta einai trela pragmata.Tora sto nomosxedio pou leei mh panepisthmiako eee einai malakia ama einai etsi na leei kai sto ptyxio tou AEI mh texnologiko.Sostos???SPOOKER spoudasths TEI athinas tmhma pliroforikhs[This message has been edited by SPOOKER (edited 09-05-2001).]

NeTeD · 10 Μαΐου 2001

H apopsi mou einai oti ontws, an den prohgithei anavathmish spoudwn, den prokeitai na epelthei ousiastikh anavathmish tou titlou. Apti stigmh pou ta mathimata kai oi kathigites paramenoun ta idia, de mporw na katalavw pou sto kalo anavathmizomaste.. Diladi o mellontikos ergodotis ilithios tha einai? De tha kserei oti i morfosi tha einai h idia? Ara pali tha epileksei anamesa se AEI-TEI analoga me ti douleia pou tous thelei.Ayto pou prepei na ginei kata th gnwmh mou, einai na krithoun poies sxoles shkwnoun anavathmish, kai na proxorisoun. To apotelesma tha einai na yparxoun perissoteres theseis se aksiologes sxoles, me dikaiwma kalyterhs kai oxi merikhs morfosis se oso to dynaton perissoterous.NeTeD Spoudasths Tei Peiraia H/Y Systhmata[This message has been edited by NeTeD (edited 09-05-2001).]

koursaros · 10 Μαΐου 2001

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Icecut: ama ginei h e3iswsh twn titlwn kai mou fane th douleia mou oi teitzides 8a ga**** poly kosmo....!!!!<IMG SRC="http://www.insomnia.gr/cpubb/smilies/cwm21.gif" border=0> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Poli pikroxoli apantisi Icecut. Pantos apo mena sou eggiomai de tha sou fao ti douleia,opote na mi fobamai tis sinepeies e? Gia pes mas kai ti sxoli sou etsi gia na milame anoixta alla kai me kapoio epipedo e? Epipedo pou kapou to exases...FOITHTHS twn Tei Thessalonikis Tm. AutomatismouKoursaros <IMG SRC="http://www.insomnia.gr/cpubb/smilies/cwm11.gif" border=0>[This message has been edited by koursaros (edited 10-05-2001).]

deathlok · 10 Μαΐου 2001

den einai dinaton i exisosi na gini mai kai to epipedo ton tei einai poli pio xamilo alla kai apo tin alli den einai dinaton na min gini kati me ta tei mia kai entoistixos thesmos den iparxei stin evropi opote den borei na iparxei kai stin eleda pleon.ellada=evropi!

iccon · 10 Μαΐου 2001

Arxika na pw pws simfwnw me tis gnwmes twn teleytaiwn reply, oxi omos epeidi eimai se TEI, alla giati pisteuw pws etsi einai to swsto. Gia ton filo thanmikron pou xaraktiristika leei :Alla einai teliws adiko kapoios pou exei ftisei aima gia na parei ena ptixeio sta AEI na pairnei to idio ptixio me enan sta TEI pou den exei prospathisei toso. Kai ton rwtaw.. Poios sou leei oti sta TEI den ftinoun aima? kai gia na leme ta pragmata me to onoma tous, na simfonisw pws den einai s'oles tis sxoles etsi. Gi'auto prepei na ginei a3iologisi kai na doune poies sxoles mporoun na anaba8mistoun amesos kai poies oxi, etsi wste na dw8ei baros s'autes pou isteroun gia na e3elix8oun sti sinexeia. Gia ton filo Icecut, exw na pw kati aplo... An eisai kalos s'auto pou kaneis tote den exei problima apo tipota kai apo kanenan! An den eisai tote....exeis problima kai malista megalo! Iccon Foititis Tei Thessalonikis Tm. Automatismou

Critter · 10 Μαΐου 2001

Paidia,na rotiso kati? Mipos eistai telios ektos topou kai xronou? Den katalaba pou eidate eseis oti me to neo nomosxedio EKSISONONTAI ta ptixia. Tha elega mallon oti eistai poli gelasmenoi. Aporo pos exoun kai to thrasos apo ta AEI kai milane. Kat'arxas,mas xaraktirizoun mi panepistimiaka idrimata kai den exoume dikaioma organosis metaptixiakon opos kai simetoxis sta metaptixiaka ton AEI entos xoras. Deyteron,aiorite ston aera oti me ton titlo mas den tha mporoume na kanoume oute sto eksoteriko metaptixiaka mias kai eimaste mi panepistimiakes sxoles(eno mexri tora mporousame giati to ptixio mas xaraktirizete os anoteras bathmidas). Triton ego prosopika mono gia ta ergastiria(5)diabazo gia na kano tis ipoxreotikes ergasies 4 ores toulaxiston kathe mera kai den prolabaino na anoikso theoria opou kai kobome stis perissoteres. tetarton exoune 13 mathimata eno filos mou stin asoee exei 6!!!!!!!!!!kai oli mera kathete. Den katalabaino lilpon pros ti i antidrasi ton AEI. Kai go sas orkizome oti pernaga se ola ta mathimatika-fisika tis eparxias kai dimosia dioikhsh sthn panteio,alla den piga giati einai sxoles gia petama. Ta tei me tin praktiki pou kanoune,sta texnika epagelmata,fisika kai einai anoteris pneymatikis aksias apo ta antistixa AEI pou exoun to 1/100 ton ergastirion mas. As sobareytoume.Fititis ilektronikon ipologistikon sistimato TEI PEIRAIA

ultramarine · 10 Μαΐου 2001

Magkes kalo ua einai na exoume autognwsia kai na kanoume kapou kapou kai autokritikh.O kollhtos mou einai kauhghths se TEI. Kserete ti mou leei? Ta paidia (to 90%) den diabazoun kauoloy kai ta mauhmata ta exoun grammena st' arxidia tous.To TEI to kleinoun opote ueloun gia diakopes (20 meres prin ta xristougenna klp) kai to mono pou tous endiaferei einai pws na perasoun ta mauhmata XWRIS diabasma.Yparxoun fysika kai ekseraiseis.Alla sas kanw mia poly aplh erwthsh.Eidika gia ton tomea ths plhroforikhs pou kserw h ylh twn TEI einai anebasmenh sxetika alla DEN SYGKRINETAI me orismena tmhmata twn AEI ths xwras mas.H erwthsh: Parte to tmhma Mhxanikwn H/Y Patras kai peste mou an mporeite na ta ferete bolta me ta mauhmatika tous.Toulaxiston egw, ta paidia pou kserw (kai ekana kai fronthsthrio, ws mauhmatikos)den mporoun na antapekseluoyn.Phgente sto antistoixo tmhma ths Krhths (Hrakleio) kai deste thn ylh poy exoun.Ayta pou sta TEI ta akoumpane ekei ta LIWNOUN.Sta TEI ginetai perissotero praktikh douleia, xwris ayto na shmainei oti einai kako.Sta AEI (ta sygkekrimmena) ginetai uewrhtikh embauynsh kai malista perissotero apo oti xreiazetai, px sta diktya kanoun stoxastika montela,uewria ourvn, dynamoseires klt.Den kserw gia ta TEI ths notias elladas alla sth boreia Ellada oi spoudastes DEN ta agkizoun ayta ta uemata.Gi' ayto, eidika gia ta tmhmata ths plhroforikhs, afhste to kalytera...Ypenuymizw oti PANTA yparxoun ekseraiseis... Kai fysika symfwnw me thn AYSTHRH aksiologhsh twn TEI giati an den ginei, tote sigoura ua yparxoun adikies. Kai kati teleytaio pou to uhmhuhka twra.Peste mou eseis giati to pososto twn spoudastwn pou pernaei me katatakthries eksetaseis sta AEI meta thn oloklhrwsh twn spoudwn tous sta TEI einai elaxisto??? Mhpws logw twn adynamiwn pou exoun ta paidia sta pros eksetash mauhmata?? Pantws h paidia ontws paei kata diaolou...Eythxws poy kapoia idrymata kai kapoia paidia antistekontai s'aythn thn tash kai den koitoun SYNEXEIA PWS UA GINEI NA MHN GINETAI MAUHMA, alla koitoun na mauainoun OSO GINETAI PERISSOTERA. AYTOI EINAI OI MELLONTIKES ELPIDES AYTHS THS XWRAS...

NeTeD · 10 Μαΐου 2001

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ultramarine: Magkes kalo ua einai na exoume autognwsia kai na kanoume kapou kapou kai autokritikh.O kollhtos mou einai kauhghths se TEI. Kserete ti mou leei? Ta paidia (to 90%) den diabazoun kauoloy kai ta mauhmata ta exoun grammena st' arxidia tous.. To TEI to kleinoun opote ueloun gia diakopes (20 meres prin ta xristougenna klp) kai to mono pou tous endiaferei einai pws na perasoun ta mauhmata XWRIS diabasma.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Wpa re megale ti einai ayta pou les.. Apo ton Arh irthes? Ayth i katastash kyriarxei sta AEI kai to exw dei apo ta 9 sta 10 atoma pou gnwrizw. Sta TEI exoume polla ergasthria. An thes na peraseis to mathima de tha katseis xwris na diavaseis. Mhn leme oti theloume. Oi perisoteroi twn TEI skizontai, enw exw filous se AEI pou exoun ksexasei pws einai to ktirio.. Kai gia na kleisei ena idryma kapoios logos yparxei. Den eiste oi monoi pou exete logous.. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ultramarine: Alla sas kanw mia poly aplh erwthsh.Eidika gia ton tomea ths plhroforikhs pou kserw h ylh twn TEI einai anebasmenh sxetika alla DEN SYGKRINETAI me orismena tmhmata twn AEI ths xwras mas.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Ayto zhtame. Anavathmish twn spoudwn. Ayto nomizw apodyknyei oti endiaferomaste na mathoume. Zhtame na sikwthei to epipedo spoudwn mas, gia na mporoume na leme oti exei epelthei kai ousiastikh anavathmisi tou ptyxiou. Sto vourko pou anafereis, kapoioi alloi mas kratane. Kai ayto skopima. Ela se ena TEI gia ligo kairo na deis tis anyshxies mas gia tin paideia, ta sxedia pou kanoume gia tin anavathmisi mas, ton agwna na mathoume perissotera, pou ola ayta erxontai se antithesi me to montelo tou Spoudasth TEI pou perigrafeis. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ultramarine: H erwthsh: Parte to tmhma Mhxanikwn H/Y Patras kai peste mou an mporeite na ta ferete bolta me ta mauhmatika tous. Phgente sto antistoixo tmhma ths Krhths (Hrakleio) kai deste thn ylh poy exoun.Ayta pou sta TEI ta akoumpane ekei ta LIWNOUN.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Edw sorry, alla panw katw mas les vlakes. Fysika kai mporoume na antapekselthoume orismenoi, opws kai orismenoi apo AEI den mporoune na antapekselthoun.Ksereis ti antigrafes peftoun ekei mesa? Egw osous kserw mia ergasia monoi tous den exoun grapsei.. Alloi pou gnwrizw einai mesa 7 xronia kai xrwstane ena karo mathimata.. Meta ap'ola ayta erxetai kai kapoios na mou pei oti sta AEI ginetai sovarh douleia kai ta paidia diavazoune. Kati tetoia lete kai me vgazete apta rouxa mou. Alla dikaiologhse giati mallon prepei na eisai ap'ton Arh...Filika..[This message has been edited by NeTeD (edited 10-05-2001).]

wwwtasos · 10 Μαΐου 2001

Ma to theo re paidia exo tsantistei toso me auti tin mikroastiki ypokoultoura ton foititon AEI... Tous akous na kauxiountai mono kai mono epeidi mpikan se mia sxoli...TIN EXO XESMENI TI SXOLI SAS RE BODIA!!!!!Sorry pou milao asxima alla ftanei pia!! Ego eimai apofoitos IEK alla exo riksei terastio diavasma gia tin pliroforiki ikiothelos kai oxi me to zori!! Kai den exo sa dikaiologia ti sxoli mou oute psaxno na vro dikaologies tetoiou typou.Ntropi pou nea paidia exoun toso sintiritikes apopseis kai kouvalane tosa koblex. Giati tetoious fovous (min mou paroun ti doulia oi TEItzides) tous kouvalane mono oi koblexikoi!!!Oust mikroastoi molinate ta panta me tin ypokoultoura sas!!!

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