ISP,mas vlepei?

[apokaliptis]

Tha ithela na rwtisw an o ISP mporei na vlepei poies selides exoume episkeftei ti arxeia katevasame kai plirofories steilame.<BR>Enas filos mou eipe kati tetoio sxetika me tin sindesi tou ntua,isxuei?

[SoTiRiS]

logika prepei na mporei na dei ta panta giati ola pernane mesa apo ton server tou.

[apokaliptis]

Logika nai alla stin pragmatikotita den kserw kai an einai etsi kai kratei arxeia me ayta mipws einai paranomo??Kati gia prostasia prosopikou aporitou mipws??

[tiger3000]

APLA KATAGRAFONTAI TA PANTA!!!<BR>FANTASOY NA GINEI KAPOIA 'PARANOMH ENERGEIA' APO KAPOIO IP POY ANHKEI STHN OTENET AS POYME KAI AYTH NA MHN MPOREI NA JEREI POIOS XRHSTHS THS HTAN AYTOS...<BR><IMG SRC="http://www.insomnia.gr/cpubb/smilies/cwm41.gif" border=0>

[SoTiRiS]

auto pou xero ego apo tin otenet einai oti krataei logs apo ta panta.akoma kai to tilephono pou sinde8ikes xeroun,kai as einai aporito, opote se vriskoun poli aneta meta.

[iccon]

Oxi mono i Otenet, alla oloi oi ISP kratane Log files me tous users. Apo pou egine i sindesi(to tilefono diladi), ti wra egine kai ti wra egine i aposindesi kai polla akoma isws einai kataxorimena sta log files.<BR>Akoma kai stis sindeseis apo Panepistimio kai TEI iparxoun ta Log files.<P>

[apokaliptis]

Paidia nomizw pws xasate to noima den lew gia to IP i ta logs ,lew gia ta sites pou exoume episkeftei kai ton ogo pliroforiwn pou exoume lavei/stilei.

[placid]

oti selides exoume paei mas blepi giati otan eixa hol mou esteile email gia to dialer.exe oti plironeis 700/min .. kai elege oti parathrhthhke se xristes pou eixan paei se tetiou eidoud pages ..<IMG SRC="http://www.insomnia.gr/cpubb/smilies/cwm9.gif" border=0> <P>------------------<BR>Κάνε όνειρα για να ζεις. Αν δεν ονειρεύεσαι είσαι χαμένος..<BR>Φιλικά<BR>MaJoR_K

[sh4dow]

blepoun mono o,ti theloun na doun... auto ta leei ola...<P>------------------<BR>EDgSTr5SmDY=

[Blackman]

Ta pragmata exoun opws eipe kai o sh4dow...<BR>sthn pragmatikothta kseroun ta panta pou kaneis...ti site episteptese,pion prospathises na hackareis,kai xilia alla 2 pragmata.<BR>Gia na ginw akribhs...den yparxei kapoio atomo pou to kserei ayto...ola sygkentronontai sto systhma, wste se periptwsh anagkhs (blepe hackers,lamers) pou mpainoun mesa me skopo na kanoun kako se allous xrhstes, tote exoun to dikaiwma oi ISPs na aniksoun ayta ta logs me eisagkelikh parembash.Kai ayto gia na epibebewthei oti ontos o tade xrhsths ekane thn epithesh.<BR>Ypo alles synthikes den anoigoun kai den exoun logo na anoigoun ta stoixeia tou kathe xrhsth.<P>Kai gia ayto to logo oi pragmatikoi hackers mpainoun mesw 15 server...kai gia na ginoun trace einai poly dyskolo.Giati otan syndeontai pane px apo Athina->Galia->USA(Kansas px)->USA(Ilinois)->Tokyo->London->mexri sto site pou theloun na xtyphsoun.<BR>Pernane mesa apo pollous proxy servers kai alla kolpa wste na mhn mporoun na ginoun trace apo allous.<BR>Kai opws kseroume oloi to programataki "traceroute" ayto pou kanei otan tou dwseis ip enos xrhsth einai na sou dinei ta stoixeia tou ISP tou wste na epikoinwnhseis kateytheian mazi tous.<P>Elpizw na egina katanohtos

[zlimvos]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sh4dow:<BR><B>blepoun mono o,ti theloun na doun... auto ta leei ola...<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Swstos (kai to lew ek twn esw)<P><BR>

[Blackman]

File mou ayto pou les einai mono gia class C diktya...<BR>omws den einai ola ta diktya class C...<BR>kai otan kaneis spoof thn ip sou ti nomizeis oti ginete?to prog pou douleyeis sou kanei spoof thn ip mesw ena proxy server...<P>me ena trace route ston eayto sou alla kai me ta antistoixa programmata pou yparxoun, briskeis paaaaara poly eykola kapoion pou exei kanei spoof, h genikws den exei xrhsimopoihsei panw apo 3 proxy servers gia na xtyphsei kapou.<P>Kai oi routers den einai kati to opoio to ksegelas etsi...prepei na kserei thn trypa tou ekastote router, h to password tou gia na peraseis...kai fysika otan milame gia diktyo ths prokophs milame oxi mono gia router...alla gia firewalls (software/hardware)/...viruswalls...fake servers...virtual operating systems kai polla alla.<P>Kai otan milame oti enas hacker stelnei thn ip tou na perasei mesa apo arketous proxy server...ta pragmata einai etsi kai den einai episthmonikh fantasia.<BR>To pio klasiko paradeigma einai o proxy server pou sou prosferei to astalavista.com gia anonymous serfarisma.<BR>Aytos einai kai o tropos pou ginese spoof.<P>Kai oso oti ksegeloun san trusted network from inside...to thema tou inside einai sxetiko giati trusted networks den einai mono apo mesa...mporei o typos na petyxei na brei h na kserei to workgroup h kapoio domain kai sthn synexeia na kataferei na ksegelasei to domain controler kai ton router kai na mpei sto diktyo h san melos tou domain h san trusted domain controller.<P>Oi tropoi einai polloi kai poly dyskoloi.To basiko einai na katafereis na peraseis apo router-firewall-O/S security policy kai meta na mpeis sto systhma.Kai gia na to petyxeis ayto prepei oxi mono na eisai magkas...alla na exeis kai gnwstous mesa apo to systhma pou tha xtyphseis...<BR>Na mhn milame gia tous lamers pou exoun mathei tropous na kanoun Denial Of Service kai na rixnoun systhmata...gia emena ayto den einai hacking/cracking giati den mpaineis sto systhma...apla to yperfortwneis kai to systhma peftei.<P>Kai file mou kane ena aplo test...<BR>katebase ena programataki gia trace ip ...kai sthn synexeia mpes apo ton proxy tou astalavista.com kai meta kane dokimh sthn ip sou.Sthn synexeia pes mou mesw apo posous servers tha perasei gia na se brei...an kataferei dhladh na perasei apo ton prwto.<P>Filika<BR>Blackman

[subzero]

Paides...!!!Min lete blakies..!!!<P>Oi <<Hackers>> den mpainoun meso 4 Servers i otidipote allo...!!!Auta anoikoun stin fantasia sas..!!!<BR>Aplos ksegeloun tous Routers ton en logo Servise Providers oti prokeitai gia trusted Network from inside...!!!Etsi loipon kanoun spoof tin IP kai etsi ksegeloun tous Routers...!!!<P>Auto omos ginetai me poly kopo KAI XRONO!!!<BR>Exete akousei gia Class C Networks kai ta tiauta!!!!!<BR>Ante polla peipa kai stamato edo...!!!!<P>To thema exei ksefigei poly apo tis tainies epistimonikis fantasias typou <<Hackers>> ..!!<BR>Ante byeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!<P>Gia epipleon plirofories ADYNATON!!!!<BR>Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!<BR><IMG SRC="http://www.insomnia.gr/cpubb/smilies/cwm21.gif" border=0> <P>------------------<BR>Simplicity is the path to true happiness